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Group Activity - Just your basic compendium for survival..

Have I mentioned lately...
That I really do love you people? I said to Little Sister that I'm half tempted to give the guys a chance at rebuttal, and post both lists at the next update to see what either side says. Would that upset anyone?
Oy, if I do the guy's list, someone has to go grab godeater by the scruff of the neck & make him participate...Chrissy, could you be so kind as to take care of that for me?
- Claris

As a longish time married woman, I've been (mentally) writing--if not the rebuttal--a sort of dream on/worth fighting for response, as I've read the suggestions.
- Xanderella

I was also thinking something along those lines: Such as, If you are interested in a guy, ask him out... or If you are sick of waiting for him to call, plan something, and call HIM see if he is interested... and my MAJOR pet peeve with some women? DON'T play the "He should KNOW" game. If something is bugging you about his words or behavior--TELL him! You don't have to be nasty about it. Just honest.

But for guys? Maybe one thing I'd suggest if you don't know someone very well, see if they are available for lunch or a drink/coffee after work. 'Cause if you can't keep each other's interest for an hour, what are you going to do for four? *g* (It's always best to wish you had more time, then wondering "How the heck am I going to get through this?" *g*)

Another thing I've always sort of liked was to go somewhere or do something FIRST on a date--because if all else fails, at least you have SOME shared experience (good or bad)to talk about during dinner! ("That was the worst show I've ever seen!" "Really? I thought it was quite good!" *g*)

Ask questions.
Share information, but not too much.
(Such as: "Where did get your degree?" "Boston-I loved the city! I've a lot of fond memories there. There's a really great bookstore on 57th and the coolest old theatre just around the block where I lived."
NOT "Where did you get your degree?" "Boston. I lost my viginity there to a really hot chick. What was her name? Man! I was drunk! What a hangover! Oh and my skanky ex lives there now.")

Don't try to impress your date with anything--
your knowledge of fine wines or your job or your car or who you know. Your good taste and knowledge can come out in natural conversation. *g* Trying to impress your date just looks like you've got low self-esteem and you have to convince your date you are worthy.

Dress neatly. Be clean.
If you are driving, even if it's a '73 Nova, make sure it's as clean and neat as it can be. (No scraping Mickey D's cartons off the seat so she can sit down--this happened to a friend of mine actually! ;-)

Oh and if someone turns you down for a date, listen carefully to how they do it.
If it's simply, "I'm sorry, I'm busy that night" It might be best to assume they aren't interested. BUT if they say "I'm sorry! I've already got plans for that night, but maybe we can try for (some future date)?" Do call again or suggest she call you when she's free. *g*

That's off the top of my head.

As Chrissy said--I think we all, men and women, need to treat each other with respect and not assume we speak a different language. I think most people dating each other like "You look nice" "Thank you for the great time!" "I really enjoyed talking to you." and "I can't wait to see you again." whether you are a girl or a guy.
- EverDawn

LOL. I was doing the same thing.
Especially on that toilet paper one. There are some things you just aren't going to win.

- Monique

Yes! That was the kicker. That was the one that made me decide to post about the ongoing rebuttal happening in my head.

It may seem out of character, but I'm not a good nagger, so it hasn't gone further than an exasperated sigh, or much mocking when he's been out of toilet paper when he most needs it.

We've talked about it. We've joked about it. We both laughed our asses off when there was a scene in Mad About You, where Jamie did a pointed demonstration on the complicated process. We've been married for more than 9 years. The man is a network engineer. He irons his own clothes. He bathes the children more often than I do.

He just ain't gonna hang up the toilet paper. It's healthier for me to recall the words of the Serenity Prayer than it is to expect him to complete this task.

I wonder if the toilet paper hanger was invented by a woman. Too many men seem incapable of caring about it, for it to have been something thought of by the male mind.
- Xanderella

I feel like such a gender-bender, I myself am the laziest person in the world when it comes to hanging the toilet paper - I tend to do it only when company's coming and I don't want them to know my shameful secret...
- Chrissy

Me too. I'd leave it on the edge of the bath tub forEVER if I had my choice.
- KitCat

One of the many reasons when I had my bathroom redone I had a "European Hook" put in. *g*


- EverDawn

*snerk* My bathroom doesn't even have a toilet paperholder. It appears that it was taken off the wall by the previous tennant. I don't really miss it at all.
- Lovely Poet

*raises hand*
I never use it. my TP just sits on the back of the toilet. Not 'cause I'm too lazy to change it, but because I'll go out & get TP when it's on sale & you can get the big ass double rolls for half price. That way, I don't run out as often, and it's one less thing to remember. So, really,it's my shopping laziness that is the culprit there.
- Claris

You should definitely allow a male rebuttal. It'll probably be a lot shorter...
- Darklady

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